Islam and Judaism

by Luke Muehlhauser on December 7, 2009 in Islam,Quotes

Islam-Judaism

In 2007 Islam and Judaism’s holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days. Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10 countries during this time… while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize.

- TheReligionofPeace.com

It isn’t Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you.

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Michael Thackray December 7, 2009 at 5:11 pm

that guy on the left looks angry.

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Sir Jerome Kern December 7, 2009 at 6:29 pm

Well, half my friends are crazy and the others are depressed/and none of them can help me study for my math test/I got into the classroom and my knowledge was gone/I guess I should’ve studied instead of watching Wrath Of Khan.

-Bare Naked Ladies

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Sir Jerome Kern December 7, 2009 at 6:31 pm

“racked up” eh?

Your colloquial vernacular speaks volumes about your ivory tower indifference.

Off you go mate

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Michael Thackray December 7, 2009 at 6:45 pm

your grip on semantics is pathetic, sir!

maybe you should attempt to understand what he’s communicating rather than nitpick in language.

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lukeprog December 7, 2009 at 7:31 pm

Sir Jerome Kern,

Did you just try to dismiss me because I quoted someone who used colloquial language?

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Bill Maher December 7, 2009 at 11:30 pm

Sir Jerome Kern: “racked up” eh?Your colloquial vernacular speaks volumes about your ivory tower indifference.
Off you go mate  

That is probably the worst attempt I have ever seen at refutation.

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Derrida December 8, 2009 at 2:01 am

Well, Islam’s a lot younger than Christianity, which is younger than Judaism. So you’d expect Judaism to be more peaceful than Christianity, which still has its fanatics, and for Christianity to be more peaceful than Islam. Which just goes to show that newer isn’t necessarily better :)

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Penneyworth December 8, 2009 at 7:00 am

When a jewish person gets a Nobel prize, does every individual jew get the credit?

When a muslim person carries out a suicide bombing, does his personal agenda apply to every muslim?

Why not match up a picture of Israeli soldiers shooting Palestinian civilians in the street with a picture of a muslim scientist?

This post is absolutely, utterly despicable. Playing up the faults of one side of a controversy and playing up the credits of the other side is propaganda of the most odious kind and only serves to fuel the fire. Shame on you! Shame shame shame!

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poban December 8, 2009 at 7:37 am

I thought you were a mild admirer or at least a tolerator of Islam (of course I dont mean the crazy deeds of its fanatics). A muslim can also create a same kind of post about comparing theirs philosophers and algebra inventors to Israeli soldiers.

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lukeprog December 8, 2009 at 7:46 am

Oh, I’m certainly no defender of Israel!

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Penneyworth December 8, 2009 at 8:42 am

You are not a defender of Israel. Ok, you can have a cookie for that.

Now how about the strongly implied message from this post that jews wrack up nobel prizes while muslims wrack up dead bodies, and that picture that attempts to paint jews as peaceful scientists and muslims as crazies? Do you stand by this propaganda, this counterproductive shit?

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brgulker December 8, 2009 at 9:07 am

What is this post actually trying to communicate? I can’t tell if it’s tongue-in-cheek or serious? Or both?

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lukeprog December 8, 2009 at 11:22 am

Penneyworth,

I will write a post defending my views about Islam and Judaism when I have the chance.

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TK December 8, 2009 at 12:15 pm

keep in mind that any post attacking islam is utterly useless unless it acknowledges the enormous role that cultural and military imperialism as well as socioeconomic domination have played in oppressing, and therefore radicalizing, muslims

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lukeprog December 8, 2009 at 12:20 pm

TK,

Yes, there has been a major role, there. I’ve read Chomsky on Israel, Pape on suicide terrorism, etc. Though I’d certainly like to read more on the subject if I have time…

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Ari December 8, 2009 at 1:23 pm

Penneyworth: When a jewish person gets a Nobel prize, does every individual jew get the credit?When a muslim person carries out a suicide bombing, does his personal agenda apply to every muslim?

Of course not, the point of the post is to compare cultures, not individuals. Judaism generally places a high value on education and intelligence, while Islam favors dogma and submission to authority. While (Modern) Judaism is a true religion of peace, Islam is dominated by violent fundamentalists. Judaism resembles Islam 700 years ago in cultural achievement as much as modern Islam resembles Judaism 3000 years ago in violence.

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Kris December 13, 2009 at 9:30 am

First off, I’m an atheist. All religions are pretty ridiculous. But I have a few problems with this post. 1) I’m sure you can find a Muslim who looks similar to the Jewish person you have pictured. I’m sure you can find Jews who look similar to the Muslims pictured. Using selective images to augment your argument really only makes your argument look weaker. 2) Terrorism and guerrilla warfare are typically practiced by those who have little other recourse – Muslim citizens/subjects tend to live in poor countries under the thumb of the West (so terrorism is more about economics than it is about religion – this goes for the vast majority of deaths that atheists and others blame on religion. Religion may be a contributing factor, but it is not the most important factor.) 3) How about the Jewish state of Israel’s continuing war against the people of Palestine? How many Muslim deaths do you suppose that’s responsible for? I’m betting a few more than 397.

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lukeprog December 13, 2009 at 1:01 pm

Kris,

I think I agree with everything you’ve said. Certainly, a few quotes don’t represent my whole opinion of Islam. I’ll write more later.

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learningquranonline December 17, 2009 at 4:30 pm

“Did you think that We had created you in play, and that you would not be returned unto Us?” The noble Qur’an, Al-Muminoon(23):115.
http://www.learningquranonline.com

What Does “Islam” Mean?
The word “Islam” itself means “Submission to Allah.” The religion of Islam is not named after a person as in the case of “Christianity” which was named after Jesus Christ, “Buddhism” after Gutama Buddha , “Marxism” after Karl Marx, and “Confucianism” after Confucius.
Similarly, Islam is not named after a tribe like “Judaism” after the tribe of Judah and “Hinduism” after the Hindus. The Arabic word “Islam” means the submission or surrender of one’s will to the will of the only true god worthy of worship, “Allah” (known as God “the Father” in Christianity).
Anyone who does indeed submit to the will of Allah as required by Islam is termed a “Muslim,” which means one who has submitted to the will of Allah. Many people in the West have developed the sad misinformed trend of calling Islam “Muhammadenism” and it’s followers “Muhammadins.” This is a totally foreign word to Muslims and unrecognized by them. No Muslim has ever called his religion “Muhammadenism” or called himself a “Muhammadin.”
What Is The Basic Concept of Islam?
Islam teaches us that this life is a life of worship. We are placed on this earth in order to worship Allah and obey His command. During this earthly life we are subjected to a series of trials. We have the option of enduring these trials and conforming to certain laws, and our reward will be great in the next life, or we may decline to endure these trials and choose to not conform to the law, then we will be made to regret it in the next life.
Each person will be solely and completely responsible for their own final reward. We are also told that God has designed these laws to make this life a better, safer, and more tolerable one for us. If we elect to conform to them then we will see the result in this life even before moving on to the next.
We are told that the earthly life is a life of faith and work, and the next life is one of reward and no work. We have been placed on this earth to worship God, fast, pray, be industrious, good, kind, respectful, and a source of uprightness and morality. We are told that God has no need of our worship. Our worship can not increase the kingdom of God nor add to His power, however, it is in our best interests both in this life and the next that we do.
Unlike some other religions which claim that God entered in a covenant with a certain group of people and that this group is genetically better than all other human beings, or closer to God, Islam on the other hand teaches that no color, race, tribe, or lineage is better than any other. Islam teaches that all humans are equal in the sight of Allah and that the only thing that can distinguish them in His sight is their piety and worship.
“O humankind! Verily! We have created you from a male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Verily! the noblest among you in the sight of Allah is the most God-fearing. Verily! Allah is The Knower, The Aware.” The noble Qur’an, Al-Hujrat(49):13.

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Ryan January 1, 2010 at 5:09 am

Jews also brought us the massacre of Jericho, and things in the old testement that make what muslims did look down right civillized by comparison. In addition, Terrorism in islam didn’t start until the last 400 years, contrary to what brainless idiots like Robert Spencer claim. Have you read the old testemant. Judaism has a history of violence that exceeds anything muslims have done.

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