Yes, Christians REALLY believe in the rapture

by Luke Muehlhauser on April 4, 2010 in General Atheism,Video

Christian girl gets a call, steps out of a busy coffee shop for a moment. Everybody in the room rushes out of the room, leaving some clothes behind, as if they had been “raptured.” A few stay behind to wander around in confusion, saying “They just disappeared!” and that they can’t reach anyone on their cell phones. Christian girl comes back, doesn’t know it’s a prank, and starts weeping because she literally believes her friends were raptured and she was left behind. God fucking dammit indoctrination is mental!

That really happened. Here’s the video:

I did not find this funny at all. It’s just… sad. This is what indoctrination does to people.

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manicstreetpreacher April 5, 2010 at 12:58 am

I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry, so I did both.

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Mark April 5, 2010 at 1:07 am

What the hell? This comes off to me as unspeakably cruel. It’s like tricking someone into thinking that the US and China just began a nuclear war and everyone they care about is in immediate danger of annihilation.

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Richard Wein April 5, 2010 at 2:12 am

Me too, Preacher. I found myself chuckling during the set-up, but when the victim started freaking out I felt so moved by her predicament that I had tears in my eyes. (I’m quite sensitive that way. Watching weepie dramas on TV always sets me off.)

To be fair, it’s not just religion. These sorts of prank TV set-ups (and for that matter con-artists and conjurors) can make people believe the most incredible things. People are gullible. That’s human nature. The wider problem is not so much indoctrination as lack of practice in critical thinking.

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Alex April 5, 2010 at 4:18 am

That’s just cruel, and the host struck me as a gigantic tool. It wasn’t so long ago that I was in a very similar position to the poor girl in the video.

An embarrassingly small number of years ago I was very into the left behind series, so much so that any time I was home alone I was in a state of constant paranoia. I used to constantly check the tv to make sure no mass disappearances had occurred, perhaps taking my family and leaving me behind.

It went as far as listening out for the inevitable carnage that would ensue, driver-less cars, plane crashes etc (I’d like to think if that prank was played on me I would have at least retained enough skepticism to check for nearby explosions!). For a 14-15 year old kid this was truly terrifying.

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Chris April 5, 2010 at 4:46 am

Money quote: “but sometimes people take it literally”

Ahhhhhhhhhh.

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anon April 5, 2010 at 6:26 am

“Christian girl comes back, doesn’t know it’s a prank, and starts weeping because she literally believes her friends were raptured and she was left behind. God fucking dammit indoctrination is mental!”

This makes it sound like the bad making thing about what happened was that she believed in the rapture. That seems wrong to me. I think the bad making thing is that some assholes put her in a situation in which it seemed like something horrible happened to her.

If you remove the assholes and leave the belief, she doesn’t suffer. If you remove the belief and leave the assholes, she still suffers. Mark makes the point nicely:

“What the hell? This comes off to me as unspeakably cruel. It’s like tricking someone into thinking that the US and China just began a nuclear war and everyone they care about is in immediate danger of annihilation.”

Also, this provides some evidence against the claim thats been floating around here that religious people don’t really believe.

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Dave April 5, 2010 at 6:27 am

The only thing sadder than the pathetic theology and the stupid premise is the crappy acting. C’mon people, this wasn’t real. Just a bunch of phony believers making a phony “reality” show.

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MauricXe April 5, 2010 at 6:56 am

seems kinda fake.

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manicstreetpreacher April 5, 2010 at 7:36 am

@Dave and MauricXe

Perhaps it was a setup, but the fact that people would go to the trouble knowing that there was a market for it has to say something.

MSP

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anon April 5, 2010 at 7:37 am

Note: I didn’t watch it. So if its fake I’ll have to revise some of the stuff I said.

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Rob April 5, 2010 at 7:51 am

I cannot bring myself to watch this.

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Haecceitas April 5, 2010 at 7:54 am

Seems a little fake, though I’m not sure. And it was cruel if it wasn’t fake.

Anyway, supposing that this wasn’t fake, her reaction wasn’t totally irrational within the parameters of her worldview and theological distinctives. Given that she really did believe strongly in the kind of version of Christianity that entails this type of a rapture event, her reaction was quite natural and her response to evidence was probably quite well in accordance with her prior beliefs and valid principles of inductive or abductive (pardon the pun) reasoning. Perhaps she should have considered the prank hypothesis a bit more seriously before jumping to the conclusion, but then again, this was a pretty elaborate prank and she probably wasn’t in a position to think it probable that not only a group of her friends but also some apparent “outsiders” would plan such a prank. So it wasn’t really that big of a jump to the conclusion that the rapture just happened.

(Of course, I would question the merits of the whole “rapture theology” to begin with, but that’s a different matter.)

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manicstreetpreacher April 5, 2010 at 8:02 am

I have read the original post to which Luke links, and he seems pretty convinced that it ain’t no set up.

I stumbled across the following video, thinking it sly bullshit. It was not. Everyone in the video below is entirely serious…

That poor girl probably thinks these people are her friends. Did you see that look she gave? It was like a caged animal that just realized it’s about to be thrown into a boiling stew. She really believed her very holy, very white crowd of associates had been magically spirited away into the clouds, leaving her and the rest of humanity’s filth to suffer the tribulations.

And the clip’s host Rich Praytor seems to be a clean-language Christian comedian. I doubt that he would fake this. Probably thought it was funny as hell.

MSP

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CameronJ April 5, 2010 at 9:15 am

Fake.

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Roger Ebert April 5, 2010 at 11:15 am

*Obviously* a staged, fake video. Anyone who thought it was real has been watching too many crappy movies and can’t tell bad acting anymore. The girl’s reaction gets her a C+ in drama class, if she’s lucky. Those who thought the video was real: time to backpedal from your comments.

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Lee A. P. April 5, 2010 at 11:31 am

There is also a totally “real” video of an elementary school production of “Scarface” on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uovMpapeCJQ

Also here is an autopsy of a real rosewell alien.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzmmlaZ9b9I

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manicstreetpreacher April 5, 2010 at 11:46 am

@Roger (if you are the real Roger Ebert film critic, and even if you’re not, I would like to say this about the real McCoy)

You gave John Carpenter’s abysmal wipe Escape From LA a positive review saying that it was ‘the kind of movie “Independence Day” could have been if it hadn’t played it safe’ and even praised film’s the special effects, fergodsake!!!

Before becoming a film critic, you had a failed career as a screenwriter penning Russ Meyer softcore trash.

I remember reading your reviews in a previous incarnation as a film buff during my teenage years and thinking, “I am never trusting this man’s opinion of a film ever again”. And I never did.

Sorry, but I am very much open to the possibility that Praytor’s Rapture prank video is genuine.

MSP

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Roger Ebert April 5, 2010 at 1:01 pm

“…if you are the real Roger Ebert film critic…”

@MSP: Yeah, the real Roger Ebert takes time while recovering from cancer to comment on this blog. It’s one of those important things he wants to accomplish before dying prematurely. You’re showing the same sharp discernment that enables you to spot a hoax video when you see one.

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manicstreetpreacher April 5, 2010 at 1:17 pm

@Fake Roger

And you are showing the same sharp discernment of someone who would adopt the moniker of a godawful, self-important, irritating film critic.

:)

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Roger Ebert April 5, 2010 at 1:33 pm

@MSP: C’mon. Just admit you were had. It can happen to the best of us.

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manicstreetpreacher April 5, 2010 at 1:38 pm

Well, I watched it again and if it is acted, it’s not as bad you make out.

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Jeff H April 5, 2010 at 3:19 pm

What a terrible show. “Yeah, let’s do like pranks and hidden camera stuff, but get this…let’s make it Christian!”

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Justfinethanks April 5, 2010 at 5:01 pm

“Yeah, let’s do like pranks and hidden camera stuff, but get this…let’s make it Christian!”

Hey, don’t knock that business plan. “Let’s take X, but make it Christian” has made many savvy people very wealthy.

Hey, you like American Idol? How about a Christian version?

Kicking yourself for not thinking of MySpace first? No worries, just open up a Christian version.

What about Yoga? Surely, you can’t create a Christian version of a centuries old meditation and exercise technique. That would be insulting and pointless. And if you think that, you underestimate the power of the Christian Version.

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chuck April 6, 2010 at 1:02 pm

I hate the Christian shameless theft of pop-culture. It is crap.

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lukeprog April 6, 2010 at 1:05 pm

chuck,

If there was an atheist comedy show that occasionally did candid camera pranks, would you complain about this atheistic shameless theft of pop culture?

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chuck April 6, 2010 at 1:27 pm

Yep. I hate all things derivative. But, the current trend in mega-church christian America is to ape what has already been proven popular and act as if it is new, simply because it falls under the auspice of christendom.

It is crap but so is most of main-stream entertainment.

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chuck April 6, 2010 at 1:30 pm

And the christian versions don’t really bother to even try to take risks to deviate from what they are stealing (er . . . copying). I spent 10 years as an actor and playwright and this type of crass mimickery was always considered the lowest form of “invention”. It is risk-free communication that is looking to get cheap applause. This has gone on however, ever since Pat Boone attempted Rock and Roll.

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Gil S. April 6, 2010 at 3:35 pm

Not really funny but I suppose it’s a bit entertaining. Though, I can’t relate with the outrage here… Cruel? Uh, okay…? She was smiling at the end so I have no sympathy. Maybe I’m just not the emotional type.

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bert October 1, 2010 at 5:19 am

should repent and ask God for forgiveness,who ever play with this has the spirit of the antichrist

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CGO October 1, 2010 at 5:31 am

The anti-Christ is already here? Well that helps me understand the crappy economy. We’re in thee tribulation.

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jeff August 11, 2011 at 1:02 am

Isaiah 41 bring forth your Idols did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. Spalms 115 and Spalms 135 their Idols are FALSE they can’t speak, hear, nor smell and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail their Idol down like a scarecrow it can’t move, speak they must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men.
John 10 Jesus Christ says his sheep HEAR HIS VOICE and if another person TRIES TO PREACH to them they WILL FLEE from him. Jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their OWN AUTHORITY what will you do when your judged my word is not INSIDE them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes BACK in TIME.
Mathew 16 Jesus Christ claims to be the son of man. 1 cor 2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 14 says the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 states lying prophets of ISRAEL say GOD says GOD says but my word is not inside them. They wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their WORDS. All of this is EASILY verifiable.
Mathew 10 says you should hear an internal voice that defends you and tells you what to say when taken to court preached to by the holy ghost. Mathew 12 Jesus states he is preaching by the holy ghost. John 14 states holy ghost comes in future and is from someone else. Now refer back to John 10 about hearing from someone else and fleeing. John 5 states son of mans voice goes back in time. Mathew 16 Jesus claims to be the son of man.
1 cor 2 holy ghost is familiar with the story about a man on cross from READING about it. Isaiah 65 written in front of me is listed here and also what is not written is hidden from my eyes therefore not familiar with it found in the same chapter. john 7 Jesus says if you knew scripture you’d know if its his word or GODS words. john 12 Jesus admits the voice heard is NOT his. John 10 people point out that Jesus tries to make himself appear to be GOD.

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